WEBVTT 00:00:18.230 --> 00:00:22.439 Todd: Hello, and welcome to another episode of Two Guys and a Chainsaw. 00:00:25.140 --> 00:00:25.740 I’m Todd. 00:00:25.820 --> 00:00:26.410 Craig: And I’m Craig. 00:00:26.420 --> 00:00:28.580 Todd: Well Craig, we finally made it to this point. 00:00:28.580 --> 00:00:31.819 It's a movie you've been waiting for five years to do. 00:00:31.819 --> 00:00:32.729 Craig: I know, right? 00:00:32.839 --> 00:00:34.499 Todd: Are you sure you're ready to do it? 00:00:35.489 --> 00:00:35.619 Okay. 00:00:37.649 --> 00:00:39.990 Should we hold off on this just a little while longer? 00:00:40.600 --> 00:00:42.330 Craig: Maybe another five years or so? 00:00:42.330 --> 00:00:42.620 Yeah. 00:00:42.620 --> 00:00:46.759 I've seriously only been asking to do this movie like since day one. 00:00:49.160 --> 00:00:53.330 Todd: I feel like now that we're doing it, this could spell the end for our podcast. 00:00:53.440 --> 00:00:54.350 I mean, it might. 00:00:54.590 --> 00:00:54.930 What else? 00:00:54.940 --> 00:00:57.660 What other films are there for you to look forward to after this? 00:00:58.070 --> 00:00:58.680 I don't know. 00:00:58.690 --> 00:00:59.330 We'll see. 00:00:59.660 --> 00:01:00.150 Okay. 00:01:00.180 --> 00:01:07.319 Well, the film that we're doing at Craig's longstanding request is 1987’s The Gate, a 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:13.109 PG 13 film, and this is actually going to kick off a month of family-friendly horror 00:01:13.110 --> 00:01:15.630 films that we're going to do for the month of February. 00:01:16.150 --> 00:01:22.410 We've assembled four or five films that are PG-13, PG fare that you could call 00:01:22.410 --> 00:01:26.589 horror films, but they're not the typical horror films that we do on this show, like 00:01:26.940 --> 00:01:28.480 bloody and slasher stuff. 00:01:28.490 --> 00:01:32.330 These are the kinds of movies that, for one reason or another, are kind of geared 00:01:32.340 --> 00:01:36.750 more towards families and kids, but that doesn't mean that they're not fun. 00:01:36.830 --> 00:01:40.700 And certainly, this movie is one that you watched a lot as a kid. 00:01:40.700 --> 00:01:41.240 Am I right? 00:01:41.270 --> 00:01:41.789 Craig: It is. 00:01:41.849 --> 00:01:46.250 And we've talked about this, you know, we ended up talking about a lot of the same 00:01:46.250 --> 00:01:49.910 stuff a lot of the time, but it seemed like when we were growing up in the 80’s 00:01:49.970 --> 00:01:56.769 there was more of a market for these types of horror movies that, I dunno if they 00:01:56.770 --> 00:01:59.800 were intentionally geared towards young people. 00:01:59.840 --> 00:02:05.990 I believe that they were, but they were movies that both young people, I think, 00:02:05.990 --> 00:02:07.850 and adults could enjoy. 00:02:07.930 --> 00:02:13.420 Uh, and, and they were good, kinda like gateway movies, um, for young people to 00:02:13.430 --> 00:02:14.380 get into horror. 00:02:14.440 --> 00:02:17.439 And you still see some of them every once in a while. 00:02:17.480 --> 00:02:22.259 But I, I feel like not as much as we did when we were kids. 00:02:22.699 --> 00:02:26.720 And when you and I were talking about doing this month, I kind of, you know, 00:02:26.740 --> 00:02:32.390 just did a little bit of quick internet research and found a nice long list of, 00:02:32.410 --> 00:02:41.919 uh, movies that are appropriate for younger people, but, uh, maybe still a 00:02:41.920 --> 00:02:44.210 little bit on the darker or scarier side. 00:02:44.550 --> 00:02:50.370 And really the, the stuff that has been most recent in that vein has been largely 00:02:50.370 --> 00:02:51.050 animated. 00:02:51.550 --> 00:02:52.790 Um, which is cool. 00:02:52.790 --> 00:02:55.880 There are lots of cool animated movies out there. 00:02:55.889 --> 00:03:00.790 I think - and we may change our minds, so don't hold us to this - I think that we've 00:03:00.810 --> 00:03:07.950 kind of decided to make that its own, genre-themed month at some point, and 00:03:07.950 --> 00:03:11.010 we're kind of sticking with live action stuff for now. 00:03:11.020 --> 00:03:15.060 Not because we don't like the animated stuff, but there's just so many, there's 00:03:15.060 --> 00:03:18.630 so much good stuff, that we're going to have to break it up into a couple of 00:03:18.630 --> 00:03:19.450 different chunks. 00:03:19.450 --> 00:03:23.739 But, um, yeah, this is one that I watched a lot when I was a kid. 00:03:23.790 --> 00:03:27.640 Those of you who've been listening to the podcast for awhile, know that, uh, we've 00:03:27.640 --> 00:03:32.410 talked about some other movies that I was fond of, some of them were familiar with 00:03:32.420 --> 00:03:33.530 from your childhood too. 00:03:33.960 --> 00:03:39.630 I would say that this movie kind of falls in the same category as Troll, which is 00:03:39.760 --> 00:03:45.859 another one of my childhood favorites, and kind of even maybe a Poltergeist. 00:03:45.859 --> 00:03:49.140 It's that type of fare, I would say. 00:03:49.450 --> 00:03:50.799 Um, but I always liked this one. 00:03:50.809 --> 00:03:56.560 This is one that, for whatever reason, I didn't have on VHS when I was a kid, but 00:03:56.560 --> 00:04:02.179 it got played on cable television a lot, and I would always get really excited 00:04:02.190 --> 00:04:02.590 Todd: No way. 00:04:02.590 --> 00:04:06.050 You didn't have like a VHS tape of this at your house? 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:08.130 Craig: I don't remember having one. 00:04:08.240 --> 00:04:14.570 I think that this just was one of those ones that I would catch on cable, but I 00:04:14.570 --> 00:04:16.430 was always really excited to catch it. 00:04:17.019 --> 00:04:18.560 Todd: Ok, well, fair enough. 00:04:18.560 --> 00:04:20.460 I didn't realize it played that much on cable. 00:04:20.540 --> 00:04:26.800 This movie, you know, for me, I always remember the video cover in the video 00:04:26.800 --> 00:04:27.299 store. 00:04:27.309 --> 00:04:32.400 And it all, it looked to me like a super scary movie when I was a kid because it's 00:04:32.420 --> 00:04:37.490 got the gate and it has these demon claws coming out of the words, like the words 00:04:37.490 --> 00:04:38.430 are a hole in the ground. 00:04:38.440 --> 00:04:42.440 And when I read the back cover, it talks about opening up a gate to hell and all 00:04:42.440 --> 00:04:43.000 this stuff. 00:04:43.490 --> 00:04:47.720 I didn't for one second think that this was a…I mean, I guess I could have looked 00:04:47.720 --> 00:04:51.409 at the, at the, at the rating, but I didn't for one second think this was going 00:04:51.410 --> 00:04:57.170 to be PG-13 kid-oriented fare when I saw this on the shelves, and so I actually 00:04:57.170 --> 00:05:02.099 never watched it until a few years ago when I was doing…Actually, I think it was 00:05:02.099 --> 00:05:02.880 your suggestion. 00:05:02.940 --> 00:05:07.180 Before we did this podcast, I used to do, every Halloween, I would try to watch a 00:05:07.180 --> 00:05:11.530 horror movie a day and write a little bit of something about each one and post it 00:05:11.530 --> 00:05:12.169 online. 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:16.760 And I think The Gate was one that I put on that list at your encouragement. 00:05:17.270 --> 00:05:21.440 And I watched it and I thought, oh gosh, this movie isn't at all like when I was a 00:05:21.440 --> 00:05:25.470 kid and I saw that cover there in the video store, what I was expecting it to 00:05:25.470 --> 00:05:25.840 be. 00:05:26.130 --> 00:05:30.530 But I was pleasantly surprised at how cool it was, and I was a little jealous that 00:05:30.810 --> 00:05:32.740 you got to experience it as a kid. 00:05:32.740 --> 00:05:36.800 And I somehow got through my whole childhood without this becoming a, what 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:40.109 would have been probably for me, a favorite, you know, that we would've 00:05:40.109 --> 00:05:42.453 watched a lot, I think, if we had had it on hand. 00:05:42.620 --> 00:05:45.590 Craig: Well, you know, sitting down and watching it from start to finish 00:05:45.590 --> 00:05:52.940 again….Now it's not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but I can still 00:05:53.059 --> 00:05:55.940 definitely see why I was so fond of it as a kid. 00:05:55.940 --> 00:05:57.730 There are a lot of good things going on here. 00:05:58.129 --> 00:06:02.580 I think something that I maybe didn't even realize until I was sitting down and you 00:06:02.580 --> 00:06:03.930 know, really thinking about it. 00:06:04.170 --> 00:06:09.140 One of the reasons that maybe that I liked it was kind of the same reason that I 00:06:09.140 --> 00:06:16.650 liked movies like Stand By Me and The Monster Squad and The Goonies, in that the 00:06:16.650 --> 00:06:19.419 focus is all on young people. 00:06:19.430 --> 00:06:23.560 Like there really virtually are no adults in this movie. 00:06:24.330 --> 00:06:31.119 I mean, the parents, um, of our main characters are onscreen for maybe a couple 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:33.659 of minutes for the whole thing. 00:06:33.690 --> 00:06:34.469 And that's it. 00:06:34.760 --> 00:06:39.250 The rest of the time, it's completely focused on the young cast. 00:06:39.310 --> 00:06:40.130 And that's fun. 00:06:40.130 --> 00:06:45.890 And I think that's fun when you're a kid to be able to kind of, I don't know, put 00:06:45.890 --> 00:06:53.439 yourself in the situation or at least be able to relate to young people and how we 00:06:53.570 --> 00:06:55.860 potentially might process and deal with things. 00:06:56.220 --> 00:07:01.770 And of course, you know, it's PG 13 everything works out in the end. 00:07:01.840 --> 00:07:09.689 So yeah, you would want to think that you could be as self0sufficient as these kids 00:07:09.690 --> 00:07:12.850 and conquer the demons and close the gate of hell and all that. 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:13.490 Todd: Right. 00:07:15.170 --> 00:07:18.520 With all…with the liner notes from a vinyl record. 00:07:18.610 --> 00:07:20.360 Right, right. 00:07:20.700 --> 00:07:21.770 Craig: Exactly. 00:07:23.110 --> 00:07:23.679 Todd: Oh man. 00:07:23.710 --> 00:07:24.339 It's true. 00:07:24.360 --> 00:07:29.560 These movies really play into that fantasy that we had as a kids and for one, I maybe 00:07:29.560 --> 00:07:33.419 that's why I just…there's a part of me that kind of misses that aspect of my 00:07:33.420 --> 00:07:33.990 childhood. 00:07:33.990 --> 00:07:38.300 That state of mind that I was in where I would see these stories and I would think, 00:07:38.309 --> 00:07:39.480 yeah, I could do that. 00:07:39.849 --> 00:07:44.050 You know, I would read the Hardy Boys all the time, and every, every, every Hardy 00:07:44.050 --> 00:07:47.440 Boy book I read, I'd come out of that thinking, “Yeah, I'm a detective too.” 00:07:47.440 --> 00:07:47.760 Right? 00:07:47.760 --> 00:07:52.770 And I had a little detective kit and I imagined myself going around dusting for 00:07:52.770 --> 00:07:56.760 fingerprints everywhere and figuring things out, you know, Encyclopedia Brown. 00:07:56.760 --> 00:08:01.039 And all these movies just fed into that fantasy that, you know, I think as an 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:02.580 adult I'm a lot more realistic. 00:08:02.580 --> 00:08:07.080 And it's not like I read a detective novel now and think that I can be a detective. 00:08:08.710 --> 00:08:13.340 So there's a place for these kinds of movies and, uh, it's nice to have these 00:08:13.340 --> 00:08:17.090 kinds of films for kids to be able to live out those kinds of fantasies and, and 00:08:17.250 --> 00:08:18.429 it's, it's empowering, right? 00:08:18.570 --> 00:08:19.354 Craig: Yeah, I think so. 00:08:19.500 --> 00:08:24.700 I mean, this…It's just a, it's a pretty simple little movie. 00:08:24.890 --> 00:08:31.800 I mean, the cast is not…it’s very small, first of all, which I appreciate cause 00:08:31.800 --> 00:08:33.460 it's easy to keep track of people. 00:08:33.690 --> 00:08:37.410 The cast is led by Stephen Dorff in his first film. 00:08:37.520 --> 00:08:38.770 He's really young. 00:08:38.770 --> 00:08:41.349 I don't know, I would guess like eight maybe in this movie. 00:08:42.299 --> 00:08:45.230 I’m, I'm bad at pegging kids ages, so I don't know. 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:45.910 He's tiny. 00:08:45.920 --> 00:08:47.980 Anyway, he plays Glen. 00:08:48.700 --> 00:08:54.609 And he has an older sister named Al, but she's coming into her teen years, so she 00:08:54.610 --> 00:08:56.939 would prefer to be called Alexandra. 00:09:00.459 --> 00:09:04.590 But she's played by an actress named Krista Denton who had, has done some other 00:09:04.590 --> 00:09:05.410 TV and stuff. 00:09:05.410 --> 00:09:07.740 Nothing that I really remembered her from. 00:09:07.930 --> 00:09:15.329 And Glenn has a best friend named Terry who's kind of an odd ball, listens to like 00:09:15.359 --> 00:09:17.689 death metal kind of kid. 00:09:17.750 --> 00:09:23.850 Terry has lost his mom and, and we don't, we never see his dad, but we do get one 00:09:23.850 --> 00:09:28.140 glimpse into their home and like, it just doesn't seem like they're coping with the 00:09:28.140 --> 00:09:30.290 loss of their mother very well. 00:09:30.330 --> 00:09:32.499 Like, the home is a big wreck. 00:09:32.509 --> 00:09:37.310 And, um, you know, Terry's been gone all night long, but he just finds a note from 00:09:37.310 --> 00:09:39.199 his dad that he’s away on business. 00:09:39.210 --> 00:09:39.890 See you later. 00:09:42.620 --> 00:09:43.670 Thanks for the heads up. 00:09:44.450 --> 00:09:46.599 And, and those really are the central characters. 00:09:46.599 --> 00:09:50.320 And then Al has several teenage friends who pop in and out. 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:50.599 But yeah. 00:09:50.719 --> 00:09:52.410 They're of little consequence. 00:09:52.619 --> 00:09:57.569 Another reason, of course, that I am so fond of this movie is because it's 00:09:57.850 --> 00:10:03.840 perfectly eighties…I mean, it opens with this great synth score over the opening 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:04.470 credits. 00:10:05.450 --> 00:10:13.860 Then you just get this wide pan shot of like, perfect suburbia like, like the kid 00:10:13.860 --> 00:10:18.699 for me, T and the Goonies, and these kids all live in this same suburban 00:10:18.700 --> 00:10:19.430 neighborhood. 00:10:19.890 --> 00:10:24.610 It starts out with Glen, he's riding his bike. 00:10:24.820 --> 00:10:28.909 And he comes in front of his house, but like he's got this very concerned look on 00:10:28.910 --> 00:10:29.310 his face. 00:10:29.320 --> 00:10:30.660 I'm like, why are you so worried? 00:10:31.090 --> 00:10:35.430 And he goes through his house looking for, I don't know, his sister and his parents 00:10:35.430 --> 00:10:36.990 or whatever, but there's nobody there. 00:10:37.130 --> 00:10:39.610 He does notice a giant rocket. 00:10:39.969 --> 00:10:41.099 Like that's his thing. 00:10:41.400 --> 00:10:45.469 Like he likes doing these, you know, model rockets that he launches or whatever. 00:10:45.469 --> 00:10:49.410 He notices a great big one on his sister's desk, which is going to play a very 00:10:49.410 --> 00:10:50.440 pivotal role in the movie. 00:10:50.450 --> 00:10:50.960 Todd: Yes, 00:10:53.230 --> 00:10:54.240 they introduced that early. 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:55.480 Lots of foreshadowing here. 00:10:56.510 --> 00:10:56.540 Craig: But 00:10:58.730 --> 00:11:03.189 he ends up, uh, going out into his backyard and there's this big old tree and 00:11:03.190 --> 00:11:09.189 this old tree house, and he climbs up into it, but the tree gets struck by lightning, 00:11:09.630 --> 00:11:12.530 at which point he wakes up and realizes it's a dream. 00:11:12.930 --> 00:11:18.439 But when he goes and looks out his window, he sees that, in fact, for whatever 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:22.200 reason, whether it was really struck by lightning or whatever, the, the tree 00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:25.520 really has fallen over and the parents have hired some people to come and take 00:11:25.520 --> 00:11:26.350 this tree out. 00:11:26.860 --> 00:11:33.309 And when he goes outside and he’s, you know, amongst the workmen, they're pulling 00:11:33.309 --> 00:11:37.330 out the dead stump and a geode falls out of it. 00:11:37.809 --> 00:11:38.009 Yeah. 00:11:38.259 --> 00:11:42.400 I mean, just hitting me in all my feels. 00:11:42.400 --> 00:11:48.000 Like, geodes were like the most fascinating thing in the world when I was 00:11:48.000 --> 00:11:48.590 a kid. 00:11:49.800 --> 00:11:54.689 Todd: Yeah, I always, I…it is so hilarious that you are saying this. 00:11:55.150 --> 00:11:57.960 You and I wrote exactly the same notes here. 00:11:58.199 --> 00:12:02.699 I wrote this too, that…literally, I'm reading from my notes…Glen and Terry do 00:12:02.710 --> 00:12:07.600 everything eighties fun that I used to do: model rockets, that cool tablet thing they 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:10.569 have where you draw and pull the paper up, and finding a geode. 00:12:12.740 --> 00:12:13.190 Craig: Yeah. 00:12:14.259 --> 00:12:18.459 Todd: I always imagined these rocks, you know, you just break open the right rock 00:12:18.459 --> 00:12:20.240 and there'd be an awesome geode inside. 00:12:20.950 --> 00:12:21.220 Craig: Right? 00:12:21.280 --> 00:12:25.750 You know, like these magic crystals and they do, I mean, even as adults, those 00:12:25.750 --> 00:12:26.780 things are freaking cool. 00:12:26.780 --> 00:12:29.730 Like, they look like something out of a fantasy world. 00:12:29.910 --> 00:12:33.830 My parents had like a rock garden in their front yard, and there was this one big 00:12:33.839 --> 00:12:37.300 round stone, and my sister and I were convinced that it was a geode. 00:12:37.490 --> 00:12:40.670 We did everything we could to try to split that bitch in half, but 00:12:44.740 --> 00:12:46.880 it was probably like concrete or something. 00:12:48.809 --> 00:12:51.040 But anyway, that, that, that sets it up. 00:12:51.040 --> 00:12:56.969 So now there's this big hole in the ground that like smokes, but nobody thinks 00:12:59.360 --> 00:12:59.870 that's unusual. 00:13:00.020 --> 00:13:02.999 Todd: That's the hilarious thing about this movie, is there is this giant hole in 00:13:02.999 --> 00:13:05.180 the ground that everybody promptly ignores. 00:13:07.590 --> 00:13:11.209 Craig: And Terry, his friend, comes over and because they found the small geode, 00:13:11.459 --> 00:13:15.360 like Terry is convinced that they can find a bigger one - which, in fact, they do. 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:19.050 But in the process of doing that, he almost falls into it. 00:13:19.050 --> 00:13:19.860 Like it's a flipping sinkhole. 00:13:20.540 --> 00:13:23.519 In your backyard. 00:13:24.790 --> 00:13:29.190 And like, now, you know, looking back, like everything is so contrived. 00:13:29.219 --> 00:13:33.090 But I didn't even notice when I was a kid, how contrived it is. 00:13:33.110 --> 00:13:38.400 Like, they find the giant geode and then Terry almost falls in, and then somehow 00:13:38.410 --> 00:13:43.589 Glen gets a big splinter, which makes him bleed, so he bleeds in the hole. 00:13:43.940 --> 00:13:49.130 As it turns out, there's this whole, this whole system of things that needs to 00:13:49.130 --> 00:13:54.520 happen for the gates of hell to be open and, just by coincidence they all have. 00:13:58.490 --> 00:13:59.360 And I love that. 00:13:59.370 --> 00:14:04.570 Now looking back, like there's like 10 distinct things that have to happen. 00:14:04.940 --> 00:14:06.220 And they all, they all do. 00:14:10.330 --> 00:14:14.540 Like the stars literally have to be aligned like… 00:14:16.309 --> 00:14:16.759 Todd: True. 00:14:16.950 --> 00:14:18.020 Craig: Well, I've got the whole list. 00:14:18.050 --> 00:14:18.420 Okay. 00:14:18.420 --> 00:14:21.629 So because we eventually learn this speak. 00:14:21.650 --> 00:14:22.100 Okay. 00:14:22.430 --> 00:14:25.900 There's other stuff that goes on and we’ll, we'll get there. 00:14:25.910 --> 00:14:30.680 But eventually Terry, like, listens to like devil music 00:14:33.040 --> 00:14:39.979 and he's like listening to his devil music in his room and it's on, like, an LP. 00:14:40.230 --> 00:14:47.330 And as you mentioned before, not only does the music, like, narrate what's going to 00:14:47.330 --> 00:14:54.139 happen, but also there are these great liner notes, which is like, The Satanic 00:14:54.160 --> 00:14:55.099 Bible or something. 00:14:56.839 --> 00:14:59.730 Movie Clip: See, these guys knew the hole through music. 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:02.630 They got their lyrics from this thing called the dark book. 00:15:03.560 --> 00:15:05.320 That's like the Bible for demons. 00:15:06.400 --> 00:15:07.720 And here's the creepy part. 00:15:08.280 --> 00:15:09.560 This is their only album. 00:15:09.849 --> 00:15:12.329 And after they made it, they all died in a plane crash. 00:15:13.880 --> 00:15:14.310 Todd: Funny. 00:15:16.049 --> 00:15:20.189 Craig: And as he flips through it and he later shows Glen like he's like, see it. 00:15:20.189 --> 00:15:22.430 He's like, all of these things have to happen. 00:15:22.740 --> 00:15:28.470 So there's, there's the big hole and there's a giant demon and there's a geode, 00:15:28.870 --> 00:15:34.910 and the constellations are aligned, and there has to be blood and there has to be 00:15:34.910 --> 00:15:37.299 a sacrifice, which unintentionally there is. 00:15:37.580 --> 00:15:43.240 And, very specifically, there has to be levitation, which they do. 00:15:44.670 --> 00:15:46.939 Which they just casually happened to do. 00:15:48.259 --> 00:15:49.030 Todd: Oh my gosh. 00:15:49.030 --> 00:15:49.919 That is so funny. 00:15:49.950 --> 00:15:53.639 I mean, we're jumping around, but at some point the parents leave. 00:15:53.680 --> 00:15:57.420 Craig: They have to go away for three days, and Al is only 15. 00:15:57.420 --> 00:15:58.729 These parents are very trusting. 00:15:58.950 --> 00:15:59.990 Todd: Yeah, they really are. 00:15:59.990 --> 00:16:01.100 Well, they do make a big deal… 00:16:01.180 --> 00:16:02.290 Craig: I guess it was the 80s. 00:16:03.599 --> 00:16:06.790 Todd: Well, you know, actually my parents left us home alone. 00:16:06.860 --> 00:16:12.239 I mean, I was babysitting well before I was 15, but I was babysitting for other 00:16:12.240 --> 00:16:12.520 people. 00:16:12.520 --> 00:16:17.290 But not for more than an evening, you know, not, not overnight for three days. 00:16:17.310 --> 00:16:20.679 And it's hilarious as they leave and they're driving off in the car. 00:16:20.730 --> 00:16:22.969 The last thing mom says, okay, no parties. 00:16:23.630 --> 00:16:27.439 And then the very next shot is the door opening and somebody arriving to this 00:16:27.689 --> 00:16:30.520 massive party that they're throwing at that house. 00:16:31.119 --> 00:16:33.300 Just like, of course the 16 year old is going to do. 00:16:33.910 --> 00:16:37.630 So they have this party at the house and it's cool. 00:16:37.630 --> 00:16:39.400 It seems like a really cool party too. 00:16:39.429 --> 00:16:42.900 Cause at first it starts out with them just drinking beer and playing around and 00:16:42.900 --> 00:16:46.489 we get these other scenes with the two boys upstairs reading over the liner notes 00:16:46.490 --> 00:16:47.540 and doing all this stuff. 00:16:47.830 --> 00:16:51.520 And then it comes, they come back downstairs and by now they've lit like 00:16:51.560 --> 00:16:55.920 every candle in the house, put them in the living room and everybody is gathered 00:16:55.920 --> 00:16:57.830 around and they're telling ghost stories. 00:16:58.429 --> 00:17:03.230 and then one of the girls gets this idea, Oh, let's play the levitation game. 00:17:03.780 --> 00:17:07.979 And they grab Glenn and make him a participant and they're all kind of 00:17:07.980 --> 00:17:10.459 holding him while she starts. 00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:12.629 What she's like speaking some words. 00:17:12.630 --> 00:17:13.380 Is that right? 00:17:14.280 --> 00:17:14.789 Craig: I don't even remember. 00:17:15.210 --> 00:17:15.780 Not really. 00:17:15.780 --> 00:17:16.310 I mean. 00:17:16.569 --> 00:17:20.369 Like they try to do… they try to do one of the teenage boys and they can't do it. 00:17:20.369 --> 00:17:24.079 And this one girl, like, she's so weird, like, I don't know where she came from, 00:17:24.079 --> 00:17:29.440 but she's like, just this weirdo who's like, “let’s levitate.: Um, but anyway, so 00:17:29.450 --> 00:17:34.740 they decide that the teenage boy must be too heavy and they happen to see Glen, 00:17:34.740 --> 00:17:36.019 like crossing the room. 00:17:36.020 --> 00:17:37.929 So they get him and they start doing it. 00:17:37.929 --> 00:17:42.499 And the girls just like, you know, she doesn't say, “light as a feather, stiff as 00:17:42.500 --> 00:17:44.650 a board,” but that's basically what she's saying. 00:17:44.660 --> 00:17:50.300 She's like, think of dandelions on the wind and blah, and she's telling everybody 00:17:50.300 --> 00:17:51.320 to concentrate. 00:17:51.630 --> 00:17:58.190 And just these two people I feel like are kind of lifting Glen and it's super easy. 00:17:58.309 --> 00:18:02.129 And then it gets to the point where, like, they've got…they’re holding him way up in 00:18:02.130 --> 00:18:07.530 the air and then he just keeps floating up just feeling like they were levitating. 00:18:07.560 --> 00:18:08.680 Todd: In front of all of them. 00:18:09.230 --> 00:18:10.820 Craig: That's not how this game works. 00:18:14.110 --> 00:18:15.990 Todd: This is never the result of this game. 00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:22.190 Craig: He floats up to the ceiling and like freaks out and eventually falls down 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:25.190 and everybody's like, “Whoa, that was weird.” 00:18:28.150 --> 00:18:29.720 Todd: There's just a shot of the girl's face. 00:18:29.730 --> 00:18:32.280 She goes, “Oh, maybe I won't do that again.” 00:18:35.020 --> 00:18:39.370 You guys all just literally levitated a guy in your, in your bedroom, and now 00:18:39.370 --> 00:18:40.950 you're just going to go off and do something else. 00:18:41.450 --> 00:18:43.460 It's so nonchalant, right? 00:18:43.620 --> 00:18:44.443 But anyway, it happens. 00:18:44.443 --> 00:18:47.250 And it's required for their, uh, their ceremony, right? 00:18:47.250 --> 00:18:49.550 For that, for that to have happened, I guess. 00:18:50.490 --> 00:18:52.399 Craig: That, I mean, that's one of the things. 00:18:52.539 --> 00:18:54.899 I mean, we see it in the liner notes. 00:18:54.900 --> 00:18:58.150 I mean, they show us like devil worshipers, like levitating somebody. 00:18:58.150 --> 00:19:00.330 So that's one of the things that has to happen. 00:19:00.330 --> 00:19:02.669 So it does, and a little things are going on. 00:19:02.679 --> 00:19:09.070 Like the moths outside are behaving strangely, and gosh, I, you know, Terry 00:19:09.080 --> 00:19:15.290 gets all the info he needs to know from his devil music about these old gods that, 00:19:15.630 --> 00:19:18.300 you know, ruled the earth, but were banished. 00:19:18.330 --> 00:19:20.223 But someday they're going to come back and... 00:19:20.223 --> 00:19:21.760 Todd: Talk about opening the dark gate. 00:19:21.820 --> 00:19:22.110 Yeah. 00:19:22.360 --> 00:19:25.790 Craig: There's all these little things that really seem insignificant, but come 00:19:25.790 --> 00:19:26.390 up later. 00:19:26.390 --> 00:19:27.779 So I feel like I should mention them. 00:19:27.780 --> 00:19:30.909 Like Glen gets mad after the whole levitation thing. 00:19:30.930 --> 00:19:35.790 So he digs this gift out from under his bed that was going to be for his sister, 00:19:36.040 --> 00:19:39.480 and it's like this automated rocket launcher, so you don't have to actually 00:19:39.480 --> 00:19:40.290 light things. 00:19:40.290 --> 00:19:43.580 And like he just looks at it and throws it behind the bed. 00:19:43.630 --> 00:19:47.070 Totally a throwaway, but important later. 00:19:47.119 --> 00:19:50.870 So mentioning it eventually they're just like standing. 00:19:50.900 --> 00:19:53.419 Terry and Glen are standing out by the hole. 00:19:53.740 --> 00:19:56.540 And Terry is like, “I know what your problem is." 00:19:56.540 --> 00:19:59.490 And Glenn's like, “What?” And Terry's like, “You got demons.” 00:20:01.200 --> 00:20:01.230 Like 00:20:06.049 --> 00:20:09.970 they, they, they dug up the hole, but then they filled it back in, but then it opened 00:20:09.990 --> 00:20:10.610 up again. 00:20:10.610 --> 00:20:18.300 And so they cover it with the floor panel of the tree house so that like there's 00:20:18.309 --> 00:20:22.380 like a trap door that like opens right into the hole, which is convenient. 00:20:22.420 --> 00:20:28.020 When they break open that glows and smokes and that toy, I don't even know what you 00:20:28.020 --> 00:20:30.720 call it, it's like a carbon copy toy. 00:20:30.730 --> 00:20:31.240 Yeah. 00:20:31.240 --> 00:20:32.480 Do they make them anymore? 00:20:32.490 --> 00:20:33.460 They must not… 00:20:33.929 --> 00:20:34.879 Todd: They were awesome. 00:20:34.889 --> 00:20:35.269 Yeah. 00:20:35.269 --> 00:20:38.819 To describe it: It’s like a piece of plastic that's a little gray, but a little 00:20:38.820 --> 00:20:42.709 translucent, and a black, almost waxy part underneath. 00:20:43.050 --> 00:20:47.070 And when you would press on the top gray part with a pen, or you know, it’s not a 00:20:47.070 --> 00:20:51.030 pen that marks, but just something or scratch on it, you would press against 00:20:51.030 --> 00:20:55.600 that black waxy part and in any way you could draw on it and then you could lift 00:20:55.610 --> 00:20:57.010 that and it would all go away. 00:20:57.010 --> 00:20:57.299 Right. 00:20:57.530 --> 00:21:01.310 My God, I've forgotten all about those until I saw this. 00:21:01.560 --> 00:21:05.150 Craig: But when the geode breaks open and smokes and glows and all that stuff, they 00:21:05.150 --> 00:21:09.050 notice that it's left weird symbols on that toy. 00:21:09.450 --> 00:21:10.960 And so they're like, well, that's weird. 00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:15.490 And then just like in any other horror movie, they're like, let's read it out 00:21:15.490 --> 00:21:16.100 loud. 00:21:16.109 --> 00:21:16.999 So they do. 00:21:17.389 --> 00:21:21.379 And apparently that's the incantation that brings things back. 00:21:21.710 --> 00:21:26.830 And I guess the first kind of scary thing that happens is Terry spending the night 00:21:26.889 --> 00:21:29.370 and he wakes up in the middle of the night to go pee. 00:21:29.700 --> 00:21:34.530 And when he comes out, he’s standing on the landing, but he sees the front door 00:21:34.530 --> 00:21:40.130 open and like in this ethereal, smokey light, this woman who is apparently his 00:21:40.130 --> 00:21:43.520 mother comes into the room and calls to him. 00:21:43.940 --> 00:21:49.520 And he goes down and he's like hugging her and she's talking to him and they’re… not 00:21:49.520 --> 00:21:51.240 dancing, but that's almost what it looks like. 00:21:51.240 --> 00:21:53.510 They're hugging and like spinning in a circle. 00:21:53.570 --> 00:21:58.440 But when Glen and Al come out and see him, they're like, what are you doing? 00:21:58.850 --> 00:22:05.169 And he opens his eyes and he's actually hugging their dog, Angus, which is now 00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:05.460 dead. 00:22:10.330 --> 00:22:11.830 Todd: That's a one, two-for right there. 00:22:14.230 --> 00:22:16.899 Craig: Poor 97 year-old Angus. 00:22:22.370 --> 00:22:25.770 Todd: And then somehow one of the boys at the party. 00:22:26.190 --> 00:22:27.790 One of the, Oh, it's the boyfriend, right? 00:22:27.820 --> 00:22:29.860 Of the girl, Al’s. 00:22:29.860 --> 00:22:30.370 Craig: Boyd's the guy. 00:22:30.379 --> 00:22:32.740 It's, yeah, it’s the guy that Al's interested in. 00:22:32.910 --> 00:22:36.400 Todd: He ends up being tasked with actually getting rid of this dog. 00:22:36.430 --> 00:22:41.779 He's got the dog wrapped up in something and puts it in his car and starts to drive 00:22:41.780 --> 00:22:43.780 to the vet to dispose of it properly. 00:22:43.780 --> 00:22:45.910 But the vet is closed. 00:22:45.910 --> 00:22:49.420 It says, no vacancies or something, like there was a sign on the door that said, 00:22:49.420 --> 00:22:51.340 “sorry, we're not accepting any more dead animals. 00:22:51.350 --> 00:22:52.630 Now we're completely filled up.” 00:22:53.220 --> 00:22:54.360 Craig: Oh, it was just closed. 00:22:54.390 --> 00:22:55.080 Quit being dramatic. 00:22:59.040 --> 00:22:59.540 Todd: All right. 00:23:00.130 --> 00:23:02.750 So he's driving around and then he comes back to the house. 00:23:02.780 --> 00:23:02.970 What? 00:23:02.980 --> 00:23:08.290 He looks over the fence at the back and sees the hole and thinks, “Oh, this would 00:23:08.300 --> 00:23:11.460 be the perfect place” so he ends up chucking the dog in the hole. 00:23:11.560 --> 00:23:12.550 Craig: As sacrifice. 00:23:12.550 --> 00:23:12.770 Right. 00:23:13.340 --> 00:23:13.520 Okay. 00:23:13.990 --> 00:23:15.550 Cause it requires a sacrifice. 00:23:15.900 --> 00:23:17.280 Todd: That becomes a sacrifice. 00:23:17.340 --> 00:23:20.359 Craig: Coincidentally, he throws the dead dog in there. 00:23:20.360 --> 00:23:25.119 And so that's the sacrifice, which I guess, you know…It’s just one more of 00:23:25.130 --> 00:23:26.955 those things that needs to happen. 00:23:27.150 --> 00:23:32.053 At some point, Terry talks about like how you can vanish them if they do get out and 00:23:32.053 --> 00:23:38.210 it has to do with like energy that’s derived from pure love and light or 00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:38.640 something. 00:23:38.640 --> 00:23:40.350 Like, something wishy washy like that. 00:23:41.179 --> 00:23:44.010 Todd: And that’s how he, what he gets by playing the record backwards? 00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:47.115 Craig: Oh, I don't, yes, that's right. 00:23:47.270 --> 00:23:48.840 No, it's an incantation. 00:23:48.840 --> 00:23:49.360 Yeah. 00:23:53.649 --> 00:23:57.410 Backwards tells you how to close the gate. 00:23:58.690 --> 00:24:02.360 Todd: Again, it hits all the 80s fields of the backward masking, not just the devil 00:24:02.370 --> 00:24:07.760 music, but also the backward messages in these LPs that kids today will never even 00:24:07.760 --> 00:24:08.949 comprehend was a thing. 00:24:09.050 --> 00:24:14.920 No, you can’t play your MP3s backwards, I'm afraid now. 00:24:16.209 --> 00:24:20.260 Craig: Gosh, I had a little, like, Fisher price record player. 00:24:20.280 --> 00:24:23.889 I don't recall ever trying to spend my records backwards. 00:24:23.900 --> 00:24:24.639 Thank goodness. 00:24:24.760 --> 00:24:25.540 I was worried about it. 00:24:25.540 --> 00:24:26.960 It would've been bad for them. 00:24:27.010 --> 00:24:27.590 Todd: Yeah. 00:24:29.360 --> 00:24:29.439 Right. 00:24:29.929 --> 00:24:30.439 Craig: But anyway. 00:24:30.460 --> 00:24:36.575 Okay, so it’s night time again, and the, uh, Alison knowing friends, the three 00:24:36.720 --> 00:24:38.520 sisters show up for a slumber party. 00:24:38.530 --> 00:24:43.850 And there's, there's funny little stuff like Glen and the sisters are always like 00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:45.340 snipping at each other. 00:24:45.340 --> 00:24:50.270 And at one point he says, “Suck my nose til my head caves in,” which I thought was 00:24:50.270 --> 00:24:53.379 one of the funniest things I've heard in a really long time. 00:24:53.500 --> 00:24:59.070 But we also see a menacing shadow in the stairway. 00:24:59.070 --> 00:25:00.520 We don't know what that is. 00:25:00.520 --> 00:25:05.909 And even though Glen had unplugged the bug zapper, now all of a sudden it's zapping 00:25:05.910 --> 00:25:10.480 again outside his window, and then there are thousands of moths on his window and 00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:13.030 they break through the window. 00:25:13.250 --> 00:25:14.970 And so he goes and gets his sister. 00:25:15.100 --> 00:25:18.320 They go to try to wake up Terry, who's also spending the night. 00:25:18.600 --> 00:25:24.750 But it ends up being the dead dog in the bed again, and this is when things just 00:25:24.750 --> 00:25:26.539 start getting really crazy. 00:25:26.870 --> 00:25:31.699 I want to pause and say however, that that dead dog prop was disturbingly realistic 00:25:31.699 --> 00:25:32.740 and I did not enjoy it, 00:25:37.180 --> 00:25:39.250 But this is when things start getting crazy. 00:25:39.250 --> 00:25:43.090 Like, after they see Angus in the bed, like these monster hands come out from 00:25:43.090 --> 00:25:46.910 under the bed and grab Al and almost pull her under the bed. 00:25:46.990 --> 00:25:50.270 And, and so they run to the door and they open the door. 00:25:50.300 --> 00:25:52.920 And Glenn's like, yay, mom and dad are home. 00:25:53.300 --> 00:25:55.580 Um, and he runs and he hugs the dad. 00:25:55.940 --> 00:26:02.850 Um, but the dad like grabs him by the throat is like, “You've been bad.” And 00:26:02.850 --> 00:26:05.590 then this stuff was scary to me when I was a kid. 00:26:05.590 --> 00:26:08.960 Cause you know, it's the, the parents are supposed to like save the day. 00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:10.810 But now it's not really them. 00:26:10.950 --> 00:26:11.630 Obviously. 00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:17.080 Yeah, Glen like reaches up for his dad's face and like his hands, like, go all like 00:26:17.090 --> 00:26:23.600 in his mushy face and, like, the face collapses and his head falls off and the 00:26:23.600 --> 00:26:26.160 mom's just like cackling in the background. 00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:27.520 That's scary. 00:26:28.880 --> 00:26:29.006 Todd: It is. 00:26:29.006 --> 00:26:30.810 It's probably the grossest thing in the movie. 00:26:30.810 --> 00:26:33.139 I mean, that might've been what gave it the PG13 rating. 00:26:33.139 --> 00:26:36.210 And the ooze and stuff is all green that comes out. 00:26:36.210 --> 00:26:40.379 But you know, if it were red, it would definitely, definitely have been more in R 00:26:40.379 --> 00:26:41.229 territory. 00:26:41.469 --> 00:26:42.229 Craig: It was gross. 00:26:42.580 --> 00:26:44.160 Todd: And they go back inside. 00:26:44.170 --> 00:26:50.590 And I guess Terry had told some story earlier about a construction worker having 00:26:50.590 --> 00:26:53.509 been sealed up inside the house. 00:26:53.559 --> 00:26:54.260 Craig: That's true. 00:26:54.320 --> 00:26:54.859 He does. 00:26:54.960 --> 00:27:00.459 So he had told Glen this story about when that when his Glenn's house was being 00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:04.429 built, a construction worker had died, and I guess they just seal them up in the 00:27:04.430 --> 00:27:04.910 wall. 00:27:05.300 --> 00:27:08.240 I feel like that's, that story went around a lot 00:27:10.980 --> 00:27:11.174 in the 80’s. 00:27:11.309 --> 00:27:12.729 But that doesn't really come up to later. 00:27:12.730 --> 00:27:15.210 What, what comes up now is one of my favorites. 00:27:15.230 --> 00:27:19.370 They go, for some reason, to check the backyard. 00:27:19.370 --> 00:27:27.259 I, I guess, cause Terry says…Oh, it's The Gate or whatever..and Al goes outside and 00:27:27.260 --> 00:27:30.730 everybody else starts screaming at her to come back in and she doesn't realize why. 00:27:30.730 --> 00:27:36.000 But it's because there's all these little demons - they call them minions - down by 00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:36.620 her ankle. 00:27:36.630 --> 00:27:39.480 So she doesn't see them, but she runs back inside. 00:27:39.760 --> 00:27:46.310 And really, those little demons are the thing that I always remember most about 00:27:46.360 --> 00:27:47.089 this movie. 00:27:47.219 --> 00:27:48.390 Cause they're tiny. 00:27:48.700 --> 00:27:55.700 But they're so spooky, and I didn't even know until I was an adult that they made 00:27:55.710 --> 00:28:03.550 that effect with guys in rubber suits and just shooting it in forced perspective. 00:28:04.030 --> 00:28:07.200 And with oversized sets and stuff. 00:28:07.280 --> 00:28:08.939 Todd: It's really amazing actually. 00:28:08.940 --> 00:28:11.640 It's a combination of that and stop motion, right? 00:28:11.770 --> 00:28:13.030 Some parts are stop motion. 00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:18.620 Most of the time it's those guys, and you can kind of tell just because the 00:28:18.970 --> 00:28:24.790 movements are much more realistic than stop motion used to be, but darn it, like 00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:25.320 it's done… 00:28:26.910 --> 00:28:31.280 The acting, I think of the people in these, in these costumes as well as that 00:28:31.289 --> 00:28:32.450 forced perspective. 00:28:32.750 --> 00:28:37.500 And when they cut it between stop motion and that, you can hardly tell when it's 00:28:37.500 --> 00:28:38.980 people in suits and what it's not. 00:28:38.980 --> 00:28:42.100 And it just makes the whole effect really, really work. 00:28:42.100 --> 00:28:46.460 Like, it's extremely impressive special effects for these little creatures, 00:28:46.750 --> 00:28:47.929 especially for the time. 00:28:48.379 --> 00:28:50.410 Craig: This has been released on Blu-ray. 00:28:50.430 --> 00:28:53.699 I've never seen, uh, the Blu-ray release. 00:28:53.800 --> 00:28:56.379 Uh, I watched it for free online. 00:28:56.380 --> 00:29:02.490 So I have no idea, you know, the quality that I saw, but the one that I saw, I 00:29:02.500 --> 00:29:08.520 mean, there are times where you can kind of tell that it's an effect just based on 00:29:08.520 --> 00:29:10.530 the way the lighting kind of looks. 00:29:11.250 --> 00:29:14.330 But nonetheless, uh, it's a good effect. 00:29:14.330 --> 00:29:21.100 And just these little…they’re small, but they're also really menacing and 00:29:21.150 --> 00:29:24.469 especially in numbers, uh, frightening. 00:29:24.820 --> 00:29:29.949 Um, and, and they look like little bodybuilders with, you know, no neck and 00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:32.260 like these pointy faces. 00:29:32.280 --> 00:29:33.310 They're, they're creepy. 00:29:33.310 --> 00:29:36.920 Todd: They're like action figures, almost like little He-Man kind of bodies. 00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:37.240 Right? 00:29:37.460 --> 00:29:40.639 Stocky, overly muscular and moving around. 00:29:40.670 --> 00:29:41.379 No neck. 00:29:41.809 --> 00:29:43.770 Um, but yeah, definitely real. 00:29:44.330 --> 00:29:45.880 I thought very realistic. 00:29:45.890 --> 00:29:48.950 Craig: When I think of this movie, that’s the first thing that I think of, and I 00:29:48.950 --> 00:29:53.710 know years and years ago, maybe even before we started doing this, I came 00:29:53.710 --> 00:29:59.380 across some behind the scenes pictures of the guys in the suits on the overly large 00:29:59.410 --> 00:30:01.160 sets that I had never seen before. 00:30:01.510 --> 00:30:04.590 Um, and I sent them to you just ‘cause I thought they were so cool. 00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:06.760 So you can find them online. 00:30:06.840 --> 00:30:11.460 But from here on, it's just kind of the kids battling these evil forces. 00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:17.280 First they think that they're going to read the incantations from the liner 00:30:17.280 --> 00:30:21.930 notes, but as soon as they go to get the album, it bursts into flames. 00:30:22.270 --> 00:30:26.330 They want to call the police, but before they can, the phone rings and it's the 00:30:26.349 --> 00:30:29.429 evil voice of their dad again. 00:30:29.429 --> 00:30:32.909 And then the phone catches on fire and melts. 00:30:32.910 --> 00:30:35.570 And so they have no way of contacting anybody. 00:30:35.930 --> 00:30:41.000 Little details, like there's a family portrait hanging in the stairway. 00:30:41.350 --> 00:30:46.690 And, uh, after all of this craziness starts happening, they walk by it and Glen 00:30:46.690 --> 00:30:52.010 looks and everybody in the photograph except for him is slaughtered. 00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:52.579 Yeah. 00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:56.650 It's really creepy. 00:30:57.100 --> 00:31:00.800 Like they had clearly done this photo shoot where they took the nice family 00:31:00.800 --> 00:31:04.680 picture, but then they put, you know, blood and Gore all over everybody except 00:31:04.700 --> 00:31:05.260 Glen. 00:31:05.670 --> 00:31:12.179 Um, and had them pose in really disturbing dead ways and little details like that I 00:31:12.180 --> 00:31:13.804 just appreciate, you know. 00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:18.580 They end up, because they don't have the dark book or whatever, they’re like, 00:31:18.580 --> 00:31:23.870 “well, in the movies, they always just read from the Bible.” So they get a Bible 00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:28.569 and they take it out and they start reading and it seems like it's working 00:31:28.570 --> 00:31:33.150 because instead of all the light and smoke coming out, it starts getting sucked in. 00:31:33.260 --> 00:31:38.360 But then in a really stupid moment, a Glen's like, “Terry you’re getting too 00:31:38.360 --> 00:31:41.389 close to the hole,” and he's like clearly such a loser. 00:31:41.389 --> 00:31:42.900 And then he falls in. 00:31:43.059 --> 00:31:43.430 The hole. 00:31:48.150 --> 00:31:51.480 Todd: He falls in the hole and he gets, starts getting attacked by those demons. 00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:55.720 They're biting his legs and stuff, and uh, finally Glen ends up pulling him out. 00:31:55.800 --> 00:32:01.330 Then I think Terry throws the Bible into the hole after he's out and causes an 00:32:01.330 --> 00:32:05.100 explosion, and it seems like now, at this point, the hole is closed. 00:32:05.100 --> 00:32:07.389 And so they kind of think that that's it, right? 00:32:07.410 --> 00:32:09.040 Let's start doing a little celebration. 00:32:09.040 --> 00:32:13.060 They go into the house, but we know we still have at least 20 minutes left on 00:32:13.060 --> 00:32:13.860 this movie, so… 00:32:14.610 --> 00:32:17.060 Craig: Right, right. 00:32:17.060 --> 00:32:21.889 But the good news is, because they think that everything is over. 00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:26.920 those annoying sisters have been involved, have invited over the annoying boys, and 00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:30.940 they show up, and Al, thank God, is finally like, “You know what? 00:32:30.940 --> 00:32:31.909 Just everybody leave.” 00:32:34.320 --> 00:32:38.139 And I was so glad because all of those other teenagers were so obnoxious. 00:32:38.219 --> 00:32:41.450 I just wanted them to leave and they finally do, and they're gone for the rest 00:32:41.450 --> 00:32:41.869 of the movie. 00:32:41.869 --> 00:32:43.880 And I was so happy they are. 00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:46.230 Todd: But they're obnoxious in such an eighties way. 00:32:46.230 --> 00:32:50.410 Like I just loved the way that they trade all these quips and barbs back and forth. 00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:51.239 Movie Clip: What are you doing? 00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:53.840 They’re probably fagging out. 00:32:53.840 --> 00:32:55.500 What did you do to your face? 00:32:55.549 --> 00:32:56.710 None of your bees wax. 00:32:56.719 --> 00:32:59.260 I think it's a definite improvement. 00:32:59.260 --> 00:33:01.139 Change your feet, dwarf. 00:33:01.439 --> 00:33:02.469 Suck my nose to my head. 00:33:02.509 --> 00:33:02.829 Caves. 00:33:03.919 --> 00:33:06.986 Why don't you shut up. 00:33:06.986 --> 00:33:10.813 Fagging it up, hahaha. 00:33:11.770 --> 00:33:14.160 Craig: And the one girl…Yeah, fagging it up. 00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:14.910 I don't even know 00:33:19.850 --> 00:33:19.931 what that means. 00:33:19.931 --> 00:33:20.145 I mean, I’ve probably done it, but I don't know. 00:33:20.145 --> 00:33:24.580 And the one girl has, like, Something About Mary hair, like her bangs are four 00:33:25.110 --> 00:33:25.980 feet high. 00:33:25.990 --> 00:33:26.020 It's 00:33:28.710 --> 00:33:29.309 so fun. 00:33:29.849 --> 00:33:31.020 But then they get rid of them. 00:33:31.020 --> 00:33:31.659 Thank goodness. 00:33:32.020 --> 00:33:34.729 Um, but, and Al's like, “Well, it's the middle of the night. 00:33:34.740 --> 00:33:35.929 It's going to be morning soon. 00:33:36.180 --> 00:33:38.950 I'm getting cleaned up and going to bed.” But the boys are like, no way. 00:33:38.950 --> 00:33:39.750 We're too excited. 00:33:39.750 --> 00:33:40.680 Let's go watch TV. 00:33:41.100 --> 00:33:50.330 So they go watch TV for two seconds before this dead body flops out of the drywall. 00:33:50.650 --> 00:33:55.330 And Glenn's like, “Oh, it must be the workman.” Terry's like, well, that's 00:33:55.330 --> 00:33:55.610 weird. 00:33:55.610 --> 00:33:56.639 I just made that up. 00:34:00.300 --> 00:34:05.669 But then the workman comes to life and grabs Jerry and really pretty 00:34:05.670 --> 00:34:10.389 unceremoniously just pulls him into the wall and the wall seals back up. 00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:13.320 So Glen goes to get his sister. 00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:15.590 I don't, I don't know what to say. 00:34:15.590 --> 00:34:22.359 I mean, frankly, watching it again, this time around, it felt like it took longer 00:34:22.399 --> 00:34:25.909 than I remembered to get to the action. 00:34:26.380 --> 00:34:30.189 But then once you get to it, I mean, it's just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. 00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:31.500 Todd: It all just kind of happens. 00:34:31.860 --> 00:34:35.130 Really fast, and it's a kitchen sink of stuff, isn't it? 00:34:35.130 --> 00:34:38.359 I mean, this, these demons are really unorganized in the way that they're going 00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:40.819 to break out of hell or whatever this is supposed to be. 00:34:40.830 --> 00:34:43.739 It's, it's just a mishmash of…they have like… 00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:47.720 I kind of feel like the writers are like, “Well, it would be cool if we had this. 00:34:47.720 --> 00:34:48.870 I'll be cool if we had that. 00:34:48.870 --> 00:34:51.239 And of course, you know, we're going to have all these demons and then we're going 00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:54.929 to have this kind of zombie construction worker coming out of the wall and Hey, 00:34:54.929 --> 00:34:58.230 wouldn't it be neat if the picture of them looked slaughtered?” I mean, there's not a 00:34:58.230 --> 00:34:59.810 real coherent sense. 00:34:59.920 --> 00:35:02.339 I guess it's just supposed to be chaos. 00:35:02.349 --> 00:35:02.379 Right? 00:35:02.869 --> 00:35:03.249 Craig: Yes 00:35:03.329 --> 00:35:05.859 Todd: And it’s confined to this house. 00:35:06.579 --> 00:35:10.930 Craig: And not only is it confined to the house and to those kids, but it's also 00:35:11.230 --> 00:35:16.469 like, especially this last half of the movie, it says that it's happening in real 00:35:16.500 --> 00:35:16.950 time. 00:35:16.980 --> 00:35:21.189 Everything that we're witnessing is happening to them in the course of like 45 00:35:21.469 --> 00:35:21.819 minutes. 00:35:22.070 --> 00:35:23.540 And so it's, 00:35:26.740 --> 00:35:27.629 it's a lot of…stuff. 00:35:27.650 --> 00:35:28.940 I would be scared too. 00:35:29.200 --> 00:35:34.850 Uh, Glen goes to get Al and they have to first fight off the minions. 00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:38.740 Al tells Glenn to go get their dad's shotgun, which is downstairs in the 00:35:38.740 --> 00:35:39.290 closet. 00:35:39.299 --> 00:35:44.710 And so he goes to do that and eventually for whatever reason, she joins them down 00:35:44.710 --> 00:35:45.150 there. 00:35:45.490 --> 00:35:49.020 And they're trapped in the closet and the minions are like trying to get in, but all 00:35:49.020 --> 00:35:51.210 of a sudden then the minions stop trying to get in. 00:35:51.220 --> 00:35:52.320 They don't know what's going on. 00:35:52.930 --> 00:35:57.360 Then Glenn hears something behind them in the closet. 00:35:57.389 --> 00:36:03.700 And of course the construction worker bursts out again, grabs Al, and pulls her 00:36:03.720 --> 00:36:04.040 in. 00:36:04.180 --> 00:36:08.709 And I don't think we've mentioned it before, but up until this point, according 00:36:08.710 --> 00:36:16.459 to Terry, the gate has only been open like a smidge because it requires two human 00:36:16.469 --> 00:36:19.540 sacrifices for it to be open entirely. 00:36:19.550 --> 00:36:25.160 Well now they have two, they've got a Terri and they've got Al. 00:36:25.570 --> 00:36:32.210 And so when Glenn runs back up to his room, he looks outside and all of this 00:36:32.270 --> 00:36:34.680 evil smoke is 00:36:36.859 --> 00:36:40.690 spewing out of the hole up into the sky. 00:36:41.060 --> 00:36:46.299 Apparently nobody else in town is up at like four in the morning or whenever. 00:36:46.940 --> 00:36:50.310 Todd: Nobody is paying attention to any of this stuff. 00:36:50.310 --> 00:36:50.449 Craig: Because 00:36:52.869 --> 00:36:59.290 not only just no one comes to investigate the huge pillar of smoke, but also been 00:36:59.300 --> 00:37:07.569 like it's spreading out like, Ghostbusters style, like into a storm across the city. 00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:12.910 I do appreciate that they at least make Glen like a real kid. 00:37:12.930 --> 00:37:17.210 Like he would have been like, I was like, what do you do when hell opens up in your 00:37:17.220 --> 00:37:17.850 backyard? 00:37:17.850 --> 00:37:20.049 Well, you sit in your room and you cry for a little while. 00:37:22.740 --> 00:37:24.099 That's totally what I would do. 00:37:24.620 --> 00:37:26.279 And there's not much he can do. 00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:30.340 I mean the floor in there downstairs like. 00:37:30.350 --> 00:37:38.170 48 area has opened up into this enormous hole and he's just sitting up. 00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:42.660 First of all, he tries to figure out, Terry said there was a way to get rid of 00:37:42.660 --> 00:37:44.999 him and he's trying to figure it out and he can't figure it out. 00:37:45.070 --> 00:37:54.280 Just as he had wrapped up a rocket gift for his sister, apparently she had given 00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:59.770 him a birthday card or something too, and she had signed it said, happy birthday. 00:38:00.150 --> 00:38:08.320 Love Al a L and so that reminds him that the demon can be destroyed. 00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:14.440 With love and light, and I guess he thinks that his sister gave him this huge rocket 00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:16.110 and they love each other or something. 00:38:16.110 --> 00:38:19.210 And so he's going to use this rocket to kill the demon. 00:38:19.490 --> 00:38:27.220 Well, so he's trying to get it set up and that's when the big enormous demon that 00:38:27.220 --> 00:38:32.930 we've seen in the illustrations in the book finally emerges from the big hole in 00:38:32.930 --> 00:38:33.620 the living room. 00:38:34.160 --> 00:38:36.180 And I don't know, I didn't read much about this. 00:38:36.180 --> 00:38:37.200 I don't know if you did. 00:38:37.469 --> 00:38:41.330 I am assuming that that was all stop motion. 00:38:41.529 --> 00:38:42.580 Todd: It must be. 00:38:42.580 --> 00:38:42.990 Yeah. 00:38:42.990 --> 00:38:44.819 It kind of looked like it. 00:38:44.930 --> 00:38:48.580 There might've been shots that were like, maybe they did the same thing in reverse, 00:38:48.600 --> 00:38:50.040 you know, that they did with the little ones. 00:38:50.070 --> 00:38:52.440 But yeah, it looked good. 00:38:53.080 --> 00:38:54.710 I thought it looked really good. 00:38:54.969 --> 00:38:56.220 Craig: Yeah, it's scary. 00:38:56.490 --> 00:39:00.690 And I mean, it kind of looks like the little ones a little bit, but it's, it's 00:39:00.770 --> 00:39:04.920 slightly differently shaped and it's a little bit more like serpentine and it's 00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:10.960 got, you know, multiple arms as opposed to just the standard two. 00:39:11.429 --> 00:39:14.999 It pops out and I don't even really know what to make of this part. 00:39:15.049 --> 00:39:19.350 And I think I'm probably reading too much into it, but it pops out and Glen sitting 00:39:19.350 --> 00:39:23.660 there with his rocket and he's just kind of whimpering and doesn't know what to do. 00:39:23.660 --> 00:39:26.649 And the thing looks at him for a while. 00:39:27.330 --> 00:39:33.600 And then it grabs him by the hand and kind of lifts, lifts him up a little bit, but 00:39:33.839 --> 00:39:36.289 not in a particularly threatening way. 00:39:36.289 --> 00:39:41.040 And then it like caresses his head and then just puts him back down and yeah. 00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:42.650 Todd: What was that all about? 00:39:42.810 --> 00:39:44.090 Craig: I don't know why. 00:39:44.380 --> 00:39:51.319 Is it because I guess maybe in some way Glen is responsible for freeing it? 00:39:51.319 --> 00:39:57.270 Snd I was also trying to connect that to why in the photograph, when the whole 00:39:57.270 --> 00:40:00.830 family is slaughtered, it's everybody except Glen. 00:40:01.110 --> 00:40:01.660 Why. 00:40:02.030 --> 00:40:07.729 I dunno, but when it drops him, he crawls back into his room and he opens his hand 00:40:07.730 --> 00:40:08.150 in there. 00:40:08.240 --> 00:40:14.300 Again, just a hodgepodge of things, but there's an eyeball in the palm of his 00:40:14.300 --> 00:40:14.820 hand. 00:40:14.940 --> 00:40:17.290 Todd: Straight out of a Twilight Zone episode, I think. 00:40:17.290 --> 00:40:17.730 Craig: Right. 00:40:17.860 --> 00:40:18.689 I don't know. 00:40:18.700 --> 00:40:22.940 I definitely, it was familiar, but I, I couldn't remember if I was just thinking 00:40:22.940 --> 00:40:24.860 of this or if I was connecting it to something else. 00:40:25.559 --> 00:40:27.939 Todd: Yeah, that's why I say it's just a hodgepodge of things, right? 00:40:27.969 --> 00:40:30.480 I mean, is there something, is there supposed to be something symbolic about 00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:30.850 all this? 00:40:30.930 --> 00:40:35.530 Craig: iIf there is, it went right over my head, but again, you know, when I was 00:40:35.530 --> 00:40:41.280 watching this, I was a kid and so I wasn't trying to like put big picture things 00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:41.800 together. 00:40:41.830 --> 00:40:43.750 Like that was just scary. 00:40:43.870 --> 00:40:45.790 You'd be like, ah, yeah. 00:40:47.549 --> 00:40:47.959 Right? 00:40:49.359 --> 00:40:55.460 And so he crawls around and he gets a piece of the broken glass from the window, 00:40:55.460 --> 00:41:00.759 and he stabs the eyeball out and you know, and everything just happened so quickly. 00:41:00.790 --> 00:41:07.199 He, he couldn't get the, um, rocket lit before because with all of the chaos going 00:41:07.200 --> 00:41:08.500 around, it was too windy. 00:41:08.500 --> 00:41:10.070 He was trying to light the match and stuff. 00:41:10.070 --> 00:41:11.070 He couldn't get them lit. 00:41:11.450 --> 00:41:17.299 But then he remembers from earlier in the movie that he has that launcher that he 00:41:17.300 --> 00:41:18.360 had thrown behind the bed. 00:41:18.650 --> 00:41:22.399 So he crawls under and he gets it and he goes back out and he's trying to get it 00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:22.890 set up. 00:41:22.950 --> 00:41:25.390 He realizes they require batteries. 00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:29.460 He starts taking the batteries out of the flashlight that he's been carrying around 00:41:29.460 --> 00:41:30.020 forever. 00:41:30.070 --> 00:41:35.050 And he loads it up and it's like, I don't know, the big demon who has now been 00:41:35.050 --> 00:41:40.139 absent for a while, like, senses danger, I don't know. 00:41:41.999 --> 00:41:47.640 And it comes from like bursting out, uh, really fast up through the hole again and 00:41:47.640 --> 00:41:51.690 is looking at him and Glenn. 00:41:51.770 --> 00:41:52.650 So cute. 00:41:52.840 --> 00:42:02.600 He shouts, “Happy birthday, Al.” And he launches the rocket, and it goes into the 00:42:02.600 --> 00:42:04.830 demon almost as though it's absorbed. 00:42:04.870 --> 00:42:12.130 Like it goes into its chest, but then the chest like seals up again after. 00:42:12.330 --> 00:42:16.379 And the demon grabs Glen and is dangling him by his leg for a minute. 00:42:16.510 --> 00:42:23.230 But then it says though he starts to explode from the inside and all these 00:42:23.270 --> 00:42:28.400 light rays start shooting out of him and Glenn gets up and starts running for the 00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:32.730 door just as the whole house explodes. 00:42:32.770 --> 00:42:40.550 Yeah, sending Glenn flipping through the air across the street, that was hilarious. 00:42:44.349 --> 00:42:44.369 Todd: Yeah. 00:42:44.429 --> 00:42:45.810 Still doesn't wake up the neighbors. 00:42:46.690 --> 00:42:47.200 Craig: No. 00:42:47.849 --> 00:42:49.469 Well that's what's great about it too. 00:42:49.759 --> 00:42:54.910 Cause, cause then everything this guy clear…Oh no wait, another thing that I 00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:59.069 loved was, all of a sudden, it's the 4th of July. 00:42:59.720 --> 00:43:00.400 There are fireworks. 00:43:01.250 --> 00:43:07.290 The sky, when the big demon explodes, like a whole fireworks stand like a rubs out of 00:43:07.290 --> 00:43:07.310 it. 00:43:08.650 --> 00:43:10.209 Into the night sky. 00:43:10.820 --> 00:43:14.060 And makes all the clouds go away. 00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:15.360 Todd: And gets out alive. 00:43:15.640 --> 00:43:17.799 He jumps out of the front closet now. 00:43:18.190 --> 00:43:19.250 Craig: Everybody's okay. 00:43:19.260 --> 00:43:24.850 The, yeah, Angus comes out first, which I was happy about, and then Al and Terry 00:43:24.850 --> 00:43:32.439 both come out too and they all hug and everything seems fine except for that 00:43:32.450 --> 00:43:34.820 their house is completely destroyed. 00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:43.509 Todd: Really, how are we going to explain this to mom and dad? 00:43:45.420 --> 00:43:50.790 Craig: And then they all sit and giggle nonsensically on the front porch as the 00:43:50.790 --> 00:43:52.810 camera pans away. 00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:54.870 Uh, and that's the end of the movie. 00:43:55.120 --> 00:44:00.500 And I swear to God, you know, talking about it and, and recapping it, it sounds 00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:01.750 so stupid. 00:44:01.820 --> 00:44:09.210 And I suppose from an objective perspective, in many ways it is, but I 00:44:09.220 --> 00:44:10.490 still find it charming. 00:44:10.730 --> 00:44:15.299 You know, I told my partner last night, I said, you know, at this point, I feel like 00:44:15.330 --> 00:44:20.290 maybe I’ve gotten to the point where I've almost seen this movie too many times. 00:44:20.849 --> 00:44:25.770 Dozens upon dozens of times I've watched this movie, and I think I'm outgrowing it 00:44:25.770 --> 00:44:26.330 a little bit. 00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:32.720 But it'll always be charming to me, and it'll always make me think of being a kid 00:44:32.720 --> 00:44:35.050 because this came out - what, in 87? 00:44:35.059 --> 00:44:40.160 - so I would have been like eight and I imagine that I probably saw it pretty soon 00:44:40.160 --> 00:44:40.850 after that. 00:44:40.850 --> 00:44:43.340 I mean, I was young and, and watched it. 00:44:43.620 --> 00:44:46.560 Repeatedly, throughout my childhood. 00:44:46.990 --> 00:44:50.910 Um, just like I did with so many of those other movies that we talk about all the 00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:53.989 time, like The Goonies and that type of thing. 00:44:53.990 --> 00:44:57.200 It was in heavy rotation, uh, at my house. 00:44:57.210 --> 00:45:00.410 And so I just have really fond memories, uh, for it. 00:45:00.730 --> 00:45:06.859 Um, and I still would recommend it to other fans of the genre. 00:45:06.870 --> 00:45:08.290 It's, it's not amazing. 00:45:08.290 --> 00:45:14.330 It's got some, you know, cinematic feel that it's cute and it's kind of a time 00:45:14.330 --> 00:45:16.330 capsule of the 80s. 00:45:16.600 --> 00:45:19.779 Todd: It's got all that nice stuff: All the hair, all the outfits, all the 00:45:20.340 --> 00:45:23.730 goofiness, and like you said, just the general theme of the movie, the kids saved 00:45:23.740 --> 00:45:26.600 the day with all this improbable stuff kind of coming together. 00:45:26.910 --> 00:45:30.590 It doesn't make a lot of sense, but as a kid, it's fun to watch this sort of thing. 00:45:30.910 --> 00:45:33.970 This is kind of an adventure that takes place while the parents are away. 00:45:34.049 --> 00:45:34.489 Craig: Right. 00:45:34.830 --> 00:45:36.840 Todd: I agree with you, as an adult it doesn’t…yeah. 00:45:36.910 --> 00:45:40.350 Especially if you've never seen it before, I think, as an adult, it's probably not 00:45:40.350 --> 00:45:43.670 going to hold the same charm for you unless you're really pining for this kind 00:45:43.670 --> 00:45:44.940 of movie again, like us. 00:45:44.990 --> 00:45:47.140 But it's a great one to watch with your kids. 00:45:47.160 --> 00:45:51.549 There's no real gore in it, although there are some kind of gross moments. 00:45:51.570 --> 00:45:54.359 It pretty much earns its PG 13 rating, I think. 00:45:54.380 --> 00:45:56.460 Yeah, and the effects are just really nice. 00:45:57.190 --> 00:46:00.070 The writer of this movie wrote another movie risky. 00:46:00.160 --> 00:46:00.900 Did you ever see Russkies? 00:46:01.640 --> 00:46:05.790 Cause that was a… The Russians invading, and once again, kids have to help save the 00:46:05.790 --> 00:46:06.479 day in that one. 00:46:06.500 --> 00:46:10.870 And then he wrote a sequel to this, The Gate Two, which the director and writer 00:46:10.949 --> 00:46:13.310 collaborate on as well, just a couple of years later. 00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:14.130 Now, have you seen that one? 00:46:14.130 --> 00:46:15.230 Craig: Yeah, I saw it. 00:46:15.290 --> 00:46:19.430 That was one of those things, again, back in the days before the internet, you would 00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:24.689 go to the video store and all of a sudden there would be this movie that you had no 00:46:24.690 --> 00:46:28.400 idea was even being made, and that's what happened. 00:46:28.690 --> 00:46:30.109 With me with The Gate 2. 00:46:30.540 --> 00:46:34.350 I saw it on the shelf and like I freaked out cause you know, I loved the gate, I 00:46:34.350 --> 00:46:35.020 rented it. 00:46:35.070 --> 00:46:38.910 And I remember at the time thinking that it was not good. 00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:42.500 I just didn't think that it lives up to the original at all. 00:46:42.540 --> 00:46:47.630 It follows Terry…I think it's supposed to be one year after the events of the 00:46:47.630 --> 00:46:48.549 original movie. 00:46:49.410 --> 00:46:54.220 Glen and his family have moved away from their house, but Terry is still there. 00:46:54.300 --> 00:46:55.720 His life is rough. 00:46:55.730 --> 00:47:01.750 His dad's, of course, you know, his mom's still dead, and, uh, his dad's now 00:47:01.750 --> 00:47:07.080 alcoholic, and I don't remember exactly how he justifies it, but somehow he thinks 00:47:07.520 --> 00:47:13.680 that he can like use the demon's power if he summons them again. 00:47:14.050 --> 00:47:24.180 And so he does, and somehow he captures one of the minions and all of a sudden 00:47:24.180 --> 00:47:26.230 it's like the minion. 00:47:26.270 --> 00:47:29.040 I mean, it doesn't do anything different than it does in this movie. 00:47:29.040 --> 00:47:29.879 It doesn't talk. 00:47:29.880 --> 00:47:32.480 It doesn't have any kind of like discernible character. 00:47:32.660 --> 00:47:34.460 He just keeps it in a bird cage. 00:47:34.540 --> 00:47:40.340 But like apparently it can grant wishes, but then it becomes a whole monkey paw 00:47:40.459 --> 00:47:43.910 situation where it seems like, Oh, everything's great. 00:47:43.910 --> 00:47:45.049 It can grant these wishes. 00:47:45.050 --> 00:47:52.320 But then after 24 hours or something, it goes bad and there are consequences to the 00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:59.079 wishes or whatever, and it ends up with Terry crossing over into the hell 00:47:59.090 --> 00:48:03.630 dimension to like confront these ancient gods or whatever. 00:48:03.980 --> 00:48:06.480 And I, at the time I thought it was really stupid. 00:48:06.740 --> 00:48:10.390 I watched it again recently because it was streaming somewhere. 00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:11.379 I don't remember where it was. 00:48:11.380 --> 00:48:14.830 I think it was on Shudder, and I liked it better than I remembered. 00:48:15.020 --> 00:48:20.060 Liking it before and there was actually some kind of ambitious stuff that those 00:48:20.070 --> 00:48:24.190 final scenes, like in the eldest mentioned were kind of ambitious. 00:48:24.530 --> 00:48:30.420 I still don't like it as much as I liked the original, but it’s interesting in its 00:48:30.420 --> 00:48:31.139 own right. 00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:32.160 Todd: Oh, that's cool. 00:48:32.219 --> 00:48:35.359 The director, um, T bore, I don't know how you say his name. 00:48:35.500 --> 00:48:36.160 T bore talk. 00:48:36.170 --> 00:48:36.850 Cox. 00:48:37.260 --> 00:48:38.340 He is Hungarian. 00:48:38.390 --> 00:48:40.470 He's done a lot of television. 00:48:42.020 --> 00:48:44.460 Sabrina The Teenage Witch, and The Outer Limits. 00:48:44.460 --> 00:48:45.970 Just a lot of random things. 00:48:46.050 --> 00:48:46.790 Craig: But a lot. 00:48:46.809 --> 00:48:51.470 He's working, it seems like, and he's still working quite a bit. 00:48:51.540 --> 00:48:52.410 Todd: Yeah, he's working now. 00:48:52.410 --> 00:48:55.109 He's got stuff in production, pre production filming right now. 00:48:55.120 --> 00:48:58.930 Some Christmas movies, I guess there for a little while, in the early aughts, he was 00:48:58.930 --> 00:49:04.099 doing some of those crazy TV movies about giant things like Mansquito and Mega Snake 00:49:04.099 --> 00:49:05.730 and Ice spider. 00:49:08.090 --> 00:49:10.690 Ice Spider…we should do Ice Spider sometimes. 00:49:10.690 --> 00:49:11.590 That sounds awesome. 00:49:11.650 --> 00:49:12.440 Craig: We'll see. 00:49:17.870 --> 00:49:20.810 Todd: But anyway, yeah, it seems to have done, served him well. 00:49:20.810 --> 00:49:22.959 It was one of his, one of his first. 00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:26.980 I think it is actually his first feature length film back in 87 so. 00:49:27.080 --> 00:49:32.400 Craig: And you know, Stephen Dorff went on to be quite famous there for a while. 00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:38.400 I haven't seen anything out of him for a while, but, um, I remember him in one of 00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:41.169 the Aerosmith videos with Alicia Silverstone. 00:49:41.179 --> 00:49:47.719 He was like the bad boy, boyfriend and one of those, and he was the villain in one of 00:49:47.719 --> 00:49:51.340 the Blade movies and he's done, uh, a lot of stuff. 00:49:51.460 --> 00:49:52.840 The rest of them, not so much. 00:49:52.860 --> 00:49:58.120 The two girls who played the annoying twins, they've gone on to do a lot of TV. 00:49:58.160 --> 00:50:04.490 So, you know, it's one of those movies where you've got young actors and new 00:50:04.500 --> 00:50:10.379 filmmakers who would go on to do other things, and you just kind of see 00:50:10.590 --> 00:50:15.310 innovation and imagination, and I appreciate that they've, they've talked 00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:19.220 about remaking it forever and I actually think this is a movie that would be good 00:50:19.370 --> 00:50:22.730 for a remake because it's so hodgepodge. 00:50:22.959 --> 00:50:30.490 I feel like they wouldn't necessarily need to stick to the specific details of the 00:50:30.780 --> 00:50:31.490 original. 00:50:31.770 --> 00:50:33.720 They could explore different things. 00:50:34.059 --> 00:50:38.600 Um, and of course with new innovations and special effects, there's all kinds of 00:50:38.600 --> 00:50:40.340 things, uh, that they could do. 00:50:41.059 --> 00:50:47.370 It was announced that they were making a sequel back in the early aughts back when, 00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:53.570 you know, 3D was regaining popularity and it was going to be The Gate 3D and it was 00:50:53.570 --> 00:50:55.359 supposed to come out in 2011. 00:50:55.400 --> 00:51:01.820 It's still listed as in production on IMDV, but I have a feeling that, since a 00:51:01.820 --> 00:51:07.190 decade has passed since it was supposed to be released, I doubt it's moving forward 00:51:07.190 --> 00:51:08.689 very quickly at this point. 00:51:08.710 --> 00:51:09.740 But who knows. 00:51:09.770 --> 00:51:11.170 Maybe we'll see a remake someday. 00:51:11.370 --> 00:51:11.650 Todd: Yeah. 00:51:11.660 --> 00:51:12.149 Maybe. 00:51:12.240 --> 00:51:15.600 Until then, you've got this to watch and it's streaming on a number of different 00:51:15.600 --> 00:51:15.989 places. 00:51:15.990 --> 00:51:17.060 It's available online. 00:51:17.060 --> 00:51:19.540 It's not hard to find out at all. 00:51:19.790 --> 00:51:22.210 And now, Craig, we have done The Gate. 00:51:22.230 --> 00:51:22.980 Finally. 00:51:23.010 --> 00:51:23.870 What is left? 00:51:23.910 --> 00:51:25.430 What is left to do? 00:51:26.010 --> 00:51:30.020 Craig: Yeah, you can relax that I'm not pestering you about it all the time. 00:51:31.469 --> 00:51:35.879 Todd: I'm glad that we were able to do this for you and kick off this month of 00:51:35.940 --> 00:51:39.410 kid-oriented live action horror movies. 00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:39.810 Craig: Yeah. 00:51:40.060 --> 00:51:41.980 Todd: Thank you for listening to this episode. 00:51:41.990 --> 00:51:44.240 If you enjoyed it, please share it with a friend. 00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:45.530 You can find this online. 00:51:45.530 --> 00:51:47.370 You can also find us on YouTube now. 00:51:47.440 --> 00:51:48.899 Go check out our YouTube channel. 00:51:48.910 --> 00:51:50.759 Subscribe there if you haven't already. 00:51:50.759 --> 00:51:53.230 That just helps us build our subscriber numbers a little bit. 00:51:53.449 --> 00:51:56.830 It 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